From owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU Tue Jan 25 17:36:19 1994 Received: from murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA16168; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:36:19 +1100 (from owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU) Return-Path: Received: from mailing-list by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) id RAA28524; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:34:22 +1100 Received: from munnari.oz.au by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) with SMTP id RAA28521; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:29:25 +1100 Received: from picard.cmf.nrl.navy.mil by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14856; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:47:39 +1100 (from mankin@cmf.nrl.navy.mil) Received: from copernicus.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (copernicus-atm.cmf.nrl.navy.mil [134.207.10.37]) by picard.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id AAA02691; Tue, 25 Jan 1994 00:45:25 -0500 From: Allison J Mankin Received: by copernicus.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (4.1/client-1.3) id AA02828; Tue, 25 Jan 94 00:45:33 EST Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 00:45:33 EST Message-Id: <9401250545.AA02828@copernicus.cmf.nrl.navy.mil> To: big-internet@munnari.OZ.AU, ietf@cnri.reston.va.us, rem-conf@es.net Subject: IPng MBONE Open Meeting II Cc: mankin@picard.cmf.nrl.navy.mil Hi, here's a revised announcement of the IPng Area discussion meeting on the MBONE. It takes place today (Tuesday, January 25) at 12:30-2 PM EST / 5:30-7 PM UTC. We now are offering a GSM channel mixed from the default vat PCM2 channel, for those with lower bandwidth tunnels. IPNG AREA MBONE MEETING The IP Next Generation Directorate and Directors will have an open discussion meeting using the MBONE (audio and whiteboard). Time: Tues. 25 January 1994, 12:30-2 EST / 5:30-7 PM UTC The conference has been listed in SD, but for those not using SD, its information is: IPng Area Open Meeting 224.2.234.120 port 32783 id 41704 pcm ttl 191 IPng Open Meeting Whiteboard 224.2.182.104 port 57093 id 29305 ttl 255 IPng Open Meeting GSM Channel 224.2.203.194 port 65466 id 8028 ttl 255 AGENDA: Introduction of Directorate and External Review Panel participants Discussion: what are the Internet's requirements for connectivity between IPv4-only and IPng-only hosts? what is the timescale of those requirements? [Up to one hour] Update on white papers for IPng requirements From owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Jan 26 04:15:31 1994 Received: from murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA09680; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:15:31 +1100 (from owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU) Return-Path: Received: from mailing-list by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) id EAA29110; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:14:31 +1100 Received: from munnari.oz.au by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) with SMTP id EAA29096; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:09:52 +1100 Received: from GINGER.LCS.MIT.EDU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA09550; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:10:32 +1100 (from jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu) Received: by ginger.lcs.mit.edu id AA01611; Tue, 25 Jan 94 12:09:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 12:09:29 -0500 From: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Message-Id: <9401251709.AA01611@ginger.lcs.mit.edu> To: big-internet@munnari.OZ.AU, ietf@cnri.reston.va.us Subject: History of the ARPANet/Internet Cc: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu, kmh@well.sf.ca.us Katie Hafner (co-author, along with John Markoff, of "Cyberpunk", which I'm sure many of you have read and enjoyed) is writing a book on the history of the ARPANet/Internet. The publisher is to be Simon & Schuster. The general concept of the book is that it is for a general audience, but it will include enough high-level technical information to make some sense of the story. (I'd personally like to see a high-level technical history of networking, for the general technically inclined audience, sort of like the fabulous "NASA History Series", done, but that's obviously a different book.) She is interested in talking to people who can give her information on the early days of both networks. She already has many names, and I've given her many of the rest of the "usual suspects", but I'm sure it's incomplete, and in many cases she doesn't know how to reach people. So, people who were around in the early days, or who played a key role in the development of the network, and are interested in telling what they remember should contact her at 'kmh@well.sf.ca.us'. My guess would be that for the ARPANet, the "early days" would be before 1972 or so, and for the Internet, before 1980, but older (and wiser :-) heads may improve these guesses. Noel From owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Jan 26 05:48:17 1994 Received: from murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11871; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 05:15:30 +1100 (from owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU) Return-Path: Received: from mailing-list by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) id FAA29188; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 05:14:31 +1100 Received: from munnari.oz.au by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) with SMTP id EAA29174; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:55:37 +1100 Received: from tipper.oit.unc.edu by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11157; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 04:56:17 +1100 (from ses@tipper.oit.unc.edu) Received: from localhost.oit.unc.edu by tipper.oit.unc.edu (SMI4.1/FvK 1.02) id AA05379; Tue, 25 Jan 94 12:55:58 EST Message-Id: <9401251755.AA05379@tipper.oit.unc.edu> To: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: big-internet@munnari.OZ.AU, ietf@cnri.reston.va.us, kmh@well.sf.ca.us Subject: Re: History of the ARPANet/Internet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jan 94 12:09:29 EST." <9401251709.AA01611@ginger.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 12:55:58 -0500 From: Simon E Spero jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) writes: > >(I'd personally like to see a high-level technical history of networking, for >the general technically inclined audience, sort of like the fabulous "NASA >History Series", done, but that's obviously a different book.) Well, why don't you WTFM?:) "Chiappa's revolution" would go down well south of the border, "Fuzzball's and IMPs" might do well on the fantasy shelves, and "OSI bits are not the only routes" will cover the Bloomsbury set quite nicely. Simon From owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU Wed Jan 26 06:41:50 1994 Received: from murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14769; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:35:47 +1100 (from owner-Big-Internet@munnari.OZ.AU) Return-Path: Received: from mailing-list by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) id GAA29273; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:34:31 +1100 Received: from munnari.oz.au by murtoa.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.5/1.0) with SMTP id GAA29270; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:32:19 +1100 Received: from GINGER.LCS.MIT.EDU by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA12635; Wed, 26 Jan 1994 05:33:34 +1100 (from jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu) Received: by ginger.lcs.mit.edu id AA02652; Tue, 25 Jan 94 13:33:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 13:33:30 -0500 From: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Message-Id: <9401251833.AA02652@ginger.lcs.mit.edu> To: big-internet@munnari.OZ.AU, ietf@cnri.reston.va.us Subject: Re: History of the ARPANet/Internet Cc: jnc@ginger.lcs.mit.edu, kmh@well.sf.ca.us So, people who were around in the early days, or who played a key role in the development of the network, and are interested in telling what they remember should contact her at 'kmh@well.sf.ca.us'. A number of people have sent me stuff; please don't, I'm not involved. I'm just posting for her; please contact her directly. What she would probably find most useful is: - how to contact you (email address, and phones) - what you did back then, and where you fitted into the organizations - a little bit about what you are doing now The latter is probably useful in a number of ways; to gauge people's trajectories through life, to see what effects the network stuff has had, and perhaps for a "where are they now" section, which such books often have. Noel